There's also this:
about After the Fall wrote:No reason for these 4 bolts to be at the bottom. In the old days, this would be controversial, but now people are soft. At least I wish there were only 2 bolts like there used to be. Its pretty much 4th class up to the crack.
about 11th Hour on Sundial wrote:I was wondering how long this outing might take. No one mentioned anything in the description or comments. I figured about 10 hours from looking at the terrain and the climbing. It was exactly that and we had a fairly relaxed pace. This included wandering off route, chatting on the summit for a while, taking our time to hydrate and eat, and not being in a hurry. So it could definitely be done in less time. Enjoy (the unscared bolt-free rock).
And this which I can't really disagree with but my hypocrisy knows no bounds:
Squawstruck wrote:My opinion on this climb, its over rated. It rains rock fall and is over bolted. The folks who put this up did a great job and worked hard, but I have never had to be so mindful of z-clipping. They could have done this safely with way fewer bolts. This is definitely an adventure, but its less than amazing in terms of rock quality and aesthetics of the line.
Fussing around about the definition of trad: check
Pre-spraying about not clipping bolts on lines he hasn't done: check
Downgrading and casual spraying: check
Mid-twenties bro claiming back-in-ze-day ethics: check
Same bro claiming people climbing in EBs with hexes are pussies for bolting runouts: check
Giving 1-star to Beckey's Wall and Crescent Crack: checkTwat factor: 11.Recommendation: join that meet-up group run by TC.
Yo mama's so fat her patronus is cake.