i, also, can't come on saturday. however, i just got off the phone with robert piscopo of the forest service. he is very pleased that we want to participate in any sort of clean up activities. i explained the paintball scenario to him and he suggests that if we are aware of, or witness to any sort of vandalism, or illegal usage of the canyon, we should call the sherrif immediately. also, if we see officer knox of the forrest service, we should say hello and let him know to look out for paintballer activity. i also informed him that some of you climbers are going to be out there saturday to clean up, and were concerned about causing further damage in the process of washing off the paintball mess in to the bog. ranger piscopo assured me that using a biodegradeable soap would be ok. i suggested an orange based cleaner and he said that would be what he would use. in fact he said that if one were to dillute that product sufficiently, one could in fact drink it. during our conversation we discussed the structure near the bog and i explained that the structure was kind of a magnet for less than civil activity and that climbers were concerned that our usage group might be confused with that sort of activity. he assured me that we were not, and that the forrest service was already apreciative of the clean up activities we've staged up till now and would continue to do so. while talking of the structure, he explained that the structure was initially put there privately, but is now shared between the forrest service and the company that opperates the eqipment in the canyon. the forrest service can't afford the equipment and labor to raze the structure and cart it out, and because of budget constraints, the structure remains. i have to go downtown today to see if my hudson sprayer is still in my storage shed. i am going up to little this afternoon to climb and shoot some photos. if i do find my sprayer, i'm going to fill it with boiling water and a good amount of orange cleaner and get started to see what happens. anybody that wants to help today will be welcome.
i will check this site around noon to noon thirty today. i plan on spending the afternoon up there. if i'm on my own, i may not start until dark, or tomorrow am. post, pm or call me if you have my number. or i'll just do it myself