Fuck... Vibes to both of them and hope they recover fast.
This will have been the year for icy conditions in the wasnatch, even with 800000000" of snow. Having seen two solid skiers take a ride on ice and coming real close to going for it myself I can echo what Kim was saying - you feel like you're going to die and there's absolutely nothing to do about it, esp. if the axe is gone. Good thing there's still a number of people out and about and they were in a more traveled area.
edit: more info on the . NW of the Pfeiff, thank jeebus that thing is filled to the gills this season and the cliff below the choke is almost gone.
Yo mama's so fat her patronus is cake.